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November 17

Donations

To who it may concern: I couldn’t find a more appropriate link to write this. I donated again either yesterday or the day before and have donated several years in a row to you but not only am I still getting the donation pop ups, but apparently I’m getting internet obstruction to Wikipedia and I’d like to know if it is Wikipedia that’s causing the problem with my latest Wikipedia result. In other words, is Wikipedia not recognizing my donation to your latest request and is doing something on their end to cause this new issue. I know-this sounds silly to think Wikipedia would do this, but it’s not happening with other internet pages I have open. It’s cutting in and out at a very fast pace, sort of like a heartbeat, probably around 60-90 flickers per minute, and has a box notification about the Wikipedia internet interface and also has something about donations, but it’s flickering so fast I can’t read it all. Or could you please direct me to the correct department for this matter?

Thanks, and kind regards, Debra Poley 96.18.12.231 (talk) 00:48, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi! There's two parts here. Wikipedia doesn't know whether or not you have donated. If you create an account, you can supress all of the donation request banners.

It seems extremely unlikely that Wikipedia is in any way effecting your net connection. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:10, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Unless you open many pages at once, as one does. Or at least as I do. Sometimes. —Tamfang (talk) 02:08, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Here is the Contact page for the Wikimedia Foundation. You will see a specific email address there for questions about donations. The WMF has no way of connecting a specific donation to your IP address and even if that was possible, it would be a privacy violation. I too consider it highly unlikely that Wikipedia is related to your screen flicker problem. Cullen328 (talk) 04:02, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

reasons for piping

Is there an obscure feature that sometimes requires piping with matching text, like [[Example article|example article]]? And have I misremembered/misunderstood how to use nowiki?? —Tamfang (talk) 02:12, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Tamfang I think [[example article]] works, and WP:PIPING deprecates

N [[Public transport|public transport]]

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The WP:NOWIKI code is <nowiki></nowiki>. TSventon (talk) 02:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I have fixed the nowiki tags. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:41, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

D'oh! —Tamfang (talk) 02:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

There is often a shortcut with a format like [[WP:PIPING]], i.e. WP, colon, the word you are asking about in capitals. TSventon (talk) 02:53, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

This is usually a bug within Visual Editor in my experience. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:25, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Map overlay

Trying again. I need some help with the map overlay. On my sandbox, I've been working with the {{Location map many}} template and trying to overlay File:Blank map of Europe 1914.svg (or something similar!) on top for contemporary borders. I can't seem to figure it out. Any help would be well appreciated; thanks in advance. ThaesOfereode (talk) 03:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

When did Wikipedia begin Sponsoring Disinformation

Clearly not a help desk question. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 03:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

wikipedia used to be a great source of information. I've donated to you several times. Now, I consistently see political bias garbage that does not belong in anything I search whether it be current events and people, or historical events. I want the truth, not BS through an agenda filter. My question is- When exactly did you become so corrupt? Wikipedia didn't used to be this way. Were you paid or bribed, or was it of free will? 2600:6C5E:1E00:34E:55EE:385F:5BBF:DC (talk) 03:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC) Contents on Wikipedia are written by volunteers, monetary contributions do not affect what can be written here. If you disagree with anything on the website and you have at least one reliable source backing up your claim, feel free to make the changes yourself. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 03:40, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Article moved to mainspace

Hi - I moved an article to mainspace Sarah Roberts (subject of vampire legend), but it was in my sandbox, not draft, and now I can't use my sandbox. I'm not sure what to do about this. Thanks. Blackballnz (talk) 05:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Blackballnz, you can edit User:Blackballnz/sandbox by clicking on the link and then clicking on the blue link to User:Blackballnz/sandbox near the top of the page. If you want to create more articles you could use Wikipedia:Userspace drafts which avoid turning your main sandbox into a redirect when you publish an article. TSventon (talk) 05:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks TSventon (talk) - do you mean I should I click the blue edit button? But when I do this, a box comes up which tells me its a redirect to the Sarah Roberts page (as above). I can no longer edit my sandbox. Blackballnz (talk) 08:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Blackballnz You can edit your sandbox, but my instructions seem to be insufficient. You can click on https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Blackballnz/sandbox&redirect=no and then on edit. Or you could follow the instructions at Help:Redirect#How it appears to the user. TSventon (talk) 08:17, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks TSventon (talk), but I'm getting the same outcome. When I click on the link you gave me, it takes me to my sandbox page, then when I click on 'edit' it tells me the page is a redirect. I could unclick the 'redirect this page' (which is ticked). What I really want to do is completely separate my sandbox from the page that is now in mainspace. I've had a read of the redirection info & I'm thinking I should ask an admin to delete the redirect. Does that make sense? Blackballnz (talk) 06:12, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Blackballnz. Try this clicking on User:Blackballnz/sandbox (it looks the same as the link posted above but it's not) and then clicking "Edit" at the top of the page. That should open the editing window and you should then be able to WP:BLANK the sandbox so that it no longer redirects to the article. As for the article you created, please remove the MOS:ALLCAPS text from the article. Please also try to figure out some relevant Wikipedia:Template index/WikiProject banners to add to the article's talk page and perhaps a few more relevant WP:CATEGORIES for the article.-- Marchjuly (talk) 06:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Marchjuly (talk) - if I go into 'edit source' then I can remove everything, which is this (below). Is this what you mean by blanking? And thanks for the tip about banners/categories etc. I'll get on to that.

{{Redirect category shell|{{R from move}}}}

Blackballnz (talk) 07:37, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

After opening up the source editing window, just delete everything you see, click "Show preview" to check you got it all and then click "Publish changes". I think that should return you sandbox to normal. For future reference, you probably should use either WP:DRAFTS or WP:USD for working on drafts because then all you need to do is move the page and not worry about the redirecting of your main user sandbox. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:48, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Marchjuly (talk), that has worked. This was my first article direct to mainspace, and I realised almost immediately that I hadn't used the right format. Blackballnz (talk) 08:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Finding out the creator of a previously deleted article

I can find deleted articles created by user by looking at their "articles created" at the bottom and the Xtools dash will show deleted articles as well. Righteous Vendetta has been previously deleted by an AfD and re-created. The page log doesn't show anything about what happened before the deletion. Is there a tool to look up who created the article the first time around? Graywalls (talk) 05:46, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't know a tool, but User:Mikmania said they wrote it at the AfD and they were informed of the AfD on their talk page. TSventon (talk) 05:55, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

If the creator had left a comment like that, then you can go use the Xtool to see what they created, but I'm looking for a similar tool to look up creator of a deleted article. I want to find who created Red Cord Records the first time around, but I can't find it. Graywalls (talk) 05:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps you could ask at WP:REFUND who created the article? TSventon (talk) 06:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I know asking someone with admin user rights is always an option, but I was hoping for self-serve solution similar to Xtools, so I don't have to ask each time. Graywalls (talk) 07:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Looks Like I found by chance the First creator of Red Cord Records. If you look at the TP of User:Labelman77, they were informed of the Speedy Deletion of the article.

I found it via the "Missbrauchsfilter-Logbuch" (Because my interface is in German, this should translate to MisuseFilterLog (?)) of the article, where the user was logged. Hope this helps! Maresa63 ^Talk 08:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

That was the creator of the version Fastily deleted on 13 October 2011. JaeNewly created the version deleted at afd in September 2012. See authors of deleted revisions. —Cryptic 12:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

When you pulled this up, I see there are several users with deleted revs. From the several on the list, how do you read the list to narrow down which one is the creator? Graywalls (talk) 16:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Api (sandbox). —Cryptic 07:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Presumably [1] doesnt give you the page creator from 2017? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

It does, but so does history. Graywalls was asking for the creator of the deleted 2012 version, which my api links show. —Cryptic 12:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Facebook link

How can I add facebook link in Infobox Wikipedia user? CometVolcano (talk) 15:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Why would you want to? We have zero interest in promoting your off Wikipedia activities. Theroadislong (talk) 15:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

but there is an option? --CometVolcano (talk) 15:22, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I wonder if @CometVolcano is talking about Template:Infobox Wikipedia user? qcne (talk) 15:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes. I wonder what Theroadislong was thinking? --CometVolcano (talk) 15:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Probably thought you meant to put a Facebook link into an existing article.

@CometVolcano just put your Facebook profile name (from the URL) into the field, i.e:

| facebook = joeblogg874

Be mindful that by doing this you are potentially linking your real-life personal information with your Wikipedia account, which is usually discouraged for privacy reasons. qcne (talk) 15:58, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

You have requested deeltion of your user page ten times now. Please stop wasting peoples time here. Theroadislong (talk) 08:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

My own picture in commons

How can I upload my own picture in wikipedia commons? CometVolcano (talk) 15:15, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

See the guide at Wikipedia:Uploading images. Yes, as long as you own the copyright and irrevocably license it under a suitable free license. How do you want to use that picture? The use of images on Wikipedia is governed by the Wikipedia:Image use policy. Donald Albury 16:01, 17 November 2024 (UTC) Edited - Donald Albury 16:05, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

I want to use the picture in my userpage only. --CometVolcano (talk) 19:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

If you own the copyright, or the owner of the copyright has released the photo under an acceptable free license, just follow the guide for uploading images. You can then link to the image file from your user page. I will advise you to think first about how much information about yourself you want to put on your userpage. That photo will be visible to all of the world, and if you later remove it, it will still be accessible in the edit history. Donald Albury 19:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

editing

How can I edit (replace) the picture on 'Jacques Ogg'? NLBK17 (talk) 16:59, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Replace it with what? If it is a picture to which you hold the copyright (typically, you operated the camera yourself) then you can upload it to Commons (see WP:Upload) and then edit the article Jacques Ogg to change the name of the image.

If you do not hold the copyright, it is harder - you would need to contact the copyright holder and persuade them to license the picture in a way that Commons would accept: see WP:image use policy. ColinFine (talk) 17:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Anyone familiar with Turkish...

...who can translate this source for Mount Okmok, or at least say whether the DeepL translation is accurate enough to be usable as a source? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Jo-Jo Eumerus,

See WP:TRANSLATE. Also, just a question, but why would the source be in Turkish? It's 5,895 miles to Türkiye! And where did you find this source (I'm just curious)? Anyways, that page should be helpful.

Warmly,

Avishai - @Avishai11

Avishai11 (talk) 19:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

That seems to be more about translating articles than sources, though? Volcanic ash can make it quite far, Aleutians to Türkiye is a small hop. Found it on Google Scholar. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:06, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus If I were you, I might consider also going to Wikipedia:Translators available and finding someone fluent in Turkish, otherwise, you might want to use Google Translate and summarize the source, and if it doesn’t provide the article with any new info, don’t use it. @QalasQalas is fluent in Turkish, and is apparently the only Turkish translator active in the past 2-3 months. Best, @Avishai11 Avishai11 (talk) 01:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Desktop layout

How to you change mobile to desktop layout without submitting an article? NoBrainFound (talk) 17:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Bottom of the page, there's a "Desktop" button (when on mobile) and vise versa. You can also simply change the URL to remove the .m. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

New Article in Mainspace

I am trying to create a new article in mainspace called "Dissenting POWs: From Vietnam’s Hoa Lo Prison to America Today". I have it written in my sandbox, but when I click on the red link to create the new article I get a message saying "This page is on the title blacklist". I have tried several different formulations of the title and get the same message. It seems any new article I create is being blocked. I have written a number of article for Wikipedia and have never had this issue. Can someone help?JohnKent (talk) 18:34, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

It looks like it's because you're using a curly quote (’), when you need to use a straight one ('). Try that and hopefully it'll work! CoconutOctopus talk 18:42, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. That was the problem.JohnKent (talk) 21:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@JohnKent: In addtion to what's been posted above, if you move User:JohnKent/sandbox to the mainspace, you're going to run into a similar problem to what's being encountered above at #Article moved to mainspace by another user. A redirect is going to be automatically left that sends those, including your yourself, trying to access your "User:JohnKent/sandbox" to the article you create. For future reference, it's probably better to either create a regular draft or a user space draft and work on your drafts there and then move those pages instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:01, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestions.JohnKent (talk) 21:18, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

November 18

Adding same link in multiple articles - is there an easier way?

I am going to create an article about jockey Harry Cobden. He is already mentioned in a large number of articles (about 90) mostly without a red link. I have started going through them one by one adding links but wondered if there is a quicker and easier way to add links across all the articles. Southdevonian (talk) 09:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello, @Southdevonian. That sounds like the sort of thing that AWB can do - but I have never used AWB, so I may be wrong about its capabilities. ColinFine (talk) 12:06, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@Southdevonian: AWB can do it. See User:Edward/Find link and User:Lourdes/Backlinks for tools specifically for your purpose. I haven't tried them but they are probably easier to use. AWB is a much more powerful general tool to make various semiautomatic edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:48, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks @ColinFine and @PrimeHunter. AWB and Lourdes/Backlinks look a bit complicated for me. Edward/Find link is much simpler but just comes up with a list of articles, which I already have. I will use it however for articles I have already created to see if I missed any links. I think I will just persevere with doing them one by one, which is time-consuming but not too difficult. Southdevonian (talk) 20:34, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

@Southdevonian: User:Edward/Find link makes a list of articles but the entries are linked to an edit page where the link has already been made so you only have to save it. That means two clicks per edit. It requires the target article to exist so it doesn't work for adding red links to Harry Cobden. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:12, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks @PrimeHunter. I have managed to do a couple, for example [2]. But on other occasions clicking on the article title just took me back to the list. I don't know why that is. But when it works, yes, it is easier. Southdevonian (talk) 00:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Quotations - period inside or outside?

Just wondering what the house style is on punctuation (periods, commas) and quotes in the following scenarios.

1. Entire sentence in quote: "It's one of the saddest love songs I've ever heard". 2. Portion of sentence in quote: Young recalled, "It's one of the saddest love songs I've ever heard." 3. Portion of sentence in quote: Young recalled, "It's one of the saddest love songs I've ever heard," adding that he liked it. Jack C (talk) 13:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Jack C - please see MOS:QUOTEPUNCT and MOS:INOROUT - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 13:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Smashing - many thanks Jack C (talk) 13:43, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Introducing quotes - past / present tense?

Just checking if the present or past tense is preferred when introducing a quote.

Young recalls in his memoir, "I was the bar"

Young recalled in his memoir, "I was the bar" Jack C (talk) 13:35, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

It depends on the nature of the quote, see MOS:BLPTENSE. TSventon (talk) 13:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Interesting - different rules for art and news. V helpful Jack C (talk) 13:54, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

What is needed most?

I've recently been looking through WP:Maintenence and WP:Task Center. Wikipedia has so many tasks that need done, but what's the best way to know what is needed most? AKA what is needed most currently? Knowledgegatherer23 (Say Hello) 17:21, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

There's a tool called "Check Wikipedia" that lists issues by priority and amounts. Its directory for en.wiki can be found here. It only focus on syntax issues tho, and I'm not aware of any other tools that can keep track of other types of maintance. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 20:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't think you'll find much consensus about which tasks are the most important. Clearly, problems with legal consequences (such as copyright and libel) are the most important, but beyond that it's not clear. Personally I think that bringing an article up to the point where it is comprehensively sourced to high quality sources is worth thousands of times more than fixing a typo or some unclear wording. (And deleting an unsalvageable article is also worth many times more than copy-editing).

But, as we all know, those tasks are time-consuming and often difficult, so not many people do them (me included!) ColinFine (talk) 21:55, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Searching

The {{Weather box}} is used just over 30,000 times. Is there an easy way to find which Canadian articles use it? I tried using WP:AWB but it tops out at 25,000 and going through it (skipping if the article does not contain the word Canada) will take a long time. I want to use hidden categories on the articles that use it to sort them by ones that will need updating in 2030, those that can't be updated, and those that need updating now. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 21:20, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

This search composing insource and hastemplate still has a lot of false positives, but returns sub-3000 results instead of an order of magnitude more. There's probably a more advanced strat, but this might be a beginning point? Folly Mox (talk) 21:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. That looks like it would be easier to go through. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 21:50, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Will this PetScan work? Sam Sailor 22:13, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes it might miss a few but it would probably work. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 22:39, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Arilus cristatus Article broken?

Hey there! Never used Wikipedia in this way before. I was researching some assassin bugs when I went to the North American assassin bug page (Arilus cristatus) and it kept “breaking” for me (i.e. page loads for a few seconds before giving an error message saying to reload the page). I confirmed this was a page-specific issue by visiting a similar page (Pale green assassin bug), which didn’t crash. Any idea why? I did not check this on desktop, so I apologize if this is a mobile-only issue. I did restart my phone and try different browsers. Cheers! Kolbalt (talk) 23:02, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Arilus cristatus is working for me both on my Windows laptop and on my Android phone.

I notice that it has three videos on it, so I wonder if you're running into limitations on your internet connection? ColinFine (talk) 23:24, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

infobox

how do you add a new field in pre existing infobox wikipedia Saji Edavazhikkal (talk) 23:41, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Saji Edavazhikkal. Pretty all of the infoboxes you see in a Wikipedia article are templates which have a general framework of building blocks called parameters that allow various information to be added that is specific to the subject of the article. If you look at the source code for the article where the infobox is found, it should look something like {{Infobox XXXX|parameter 1=|parameter 2=|....|parameter n =}} where "XXXX" is the name of the template and the parameters are given specific names (for example, |image=) representing the type of information they require. Only those parameters listed on the template's page will work, and new parameters need to be added to the template's page; in other words, you can't add them to the template syntax you might find in an individual article. The template's page can typically be found by adding the name of the template after Template:; for example, Template:Infobox XXXX. So, once you figure out the name of the infobox template, you should be able to find it's page, and you should then be able to see what parameters can be used and how to use them. Given that a single template often is being used in lots of article, even a small change can create a rip effect that could end up causing serious problems; so, it's generally not a good idea to edit a template's page unless you really know you're doing. For this reason,many templates are protected (i.e. "locked") to prevent such mistakes. All template pages do, however, have a corresponding talk page, and you can request a new parameter be added to the template by posting a message on its talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:29, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

November 19

Does the edit notice on pages about given names apply to fictional characters?

On given name pages such as Avery (given name), there's an edit notice saying not to add unlinked or redlinked entries to the lists. Does this apply to the fictional characters list or only the lists of people? JohnLaurensAnthonyRamos333 (correct me if I'm wrong) 00:39, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Given that the WP:EDITNOTICE you're referring to is Template:Editnotices/Page/Avery (given name), and it is at the very top of the editing window, I'm assuming the intent was to have it apply to all content on the page. The notice was created and added to the page in 2013 by an administrator named Alexf. It was subsequently updated in 2019 by the Alexf. It looks like the "Fictional characters" section was added after 2019, but prior to that page just contained links to articles about real people. Perhaps Alexf can clarify how the notice applies now. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:02, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much! JohnLaurensAnthonyRamos333 (correct me if I'm wrong) 01:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

As I mentioned to John earlier in my page, I don't bother much with fictional character names. -- Alexf^(talk) 22:17, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Change of Place Name

How do I alter the spelling in a title page specifically Haggits Pillar to Haggitt Pillar?

Haggit Pillar has been corrected to Haggitt Pillar by the New Zealand Geographic Board on the recommendation from the Antarctic Place Names Committee and published in the NZ Gazette (1). The United States Board on Geographical Names has updated its records accordingly (2).

(1) https://gazette.govt.nz/notice/id/2024-ln5732 (2) https://edits.nationalmap.gov/apps/gaz-antarctica/public/search/names/2818689 JSH1970 (talk) 01:57, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

The act of changing an article name is described as a Move in Wikipedia. I have done it. HiLo48 (talk) 02:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

History of miss vicki chips shrinkage of bag size

History of miss vicki chips shrinkage of bag size 66.183.19.154 (talk) 02:39, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

There is an article on Miss Vickie's, but nothing on the bag size. These kinds of questions are better asked at the Reference desk, this page is for questions about using or editing Wikipedia. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 03:12, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

If you do ask a question there (or indeed here), do please make an effort to address humans. Thus "What is ...?", "How much is ...?", "Who did ...?", etc. Even better, sound a bit sociable/thoughtful/effortful; thus "Does anyone here know what is ...?", "Which article should I look at in order to find how much is ...?", "Is there yet any consensus among historians on who did ...?" Thank you! -- Hoary (talk) 05:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Misuse of "literal"

Has anyone worked much on pages dealing with words? I left this comment on a talk page a month ago and haven't had any replies. I would proceed with an edit, but I don't know if the error relates more to the individual page or if it's a common error elsewhere on Wiki so the use of "literal" in glosses would need more specification, wherever that takes place. I.e. should I proceed with the edit on the individual page or is there somewhere else I should take the discussion first?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yeshua#The_note_%22literal_translation%22_is_imprecise

(NB looks like there's a coding error live on the page, so you might not be able to see what I'm talking about in the link just yet) Cameron.coombe (talk) 03:35, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

It's a common error in translation templates that goes back decades. Sometimes it is useful to provide a literal translation; sometimes it's useful to have an idiomatic gloss. For the latter, I'll remove any template that produces the string "literal" or any abbreviated equivalent and just put the gloss in brackets. Folly Mox (talk) 03:49, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Folly Mox! I'll proceed confidently. I'm glad I'm not the only one to be irked by this! Cameron.coombe (talk) 00:42, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Nvm lol, someone got there before me. Good! Cameron.coombe (talk) 00:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

How to delete profile page

How can I delete my page here? I just signed up but it's confusing to use. I want to delete my page. Please advise Canada Mortgage and Financial Group (talk) 10:38, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

You do not have a page; your user page (User:Canada Mortgage and Financial Group) has not been created. Before you go any further on Wikipedia please consult the username policy as yours suggests it is a promotional name representing a company. Consider a change of username. Thanks, Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 10:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Ok. I had no idea I couldn't use a company name. Thanks for the information. If I don't have a page how come I am logged in here and messaging you? I'm new to this lol sorry..it's confusing. I will change the name. Canada Mortgage and Financial Group (talk) 10:54, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

You are logged into an account. Anyone can have an account; it essentially provides you with no extra benefits but means if you were to edit any Wikipedia article you would do so under your username rather than your IP. Accounts begin with the prefix "User:" while articles, or pages, are not prefixed. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 11:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Got you, thank you so much for the explanation. Canada Mortgage and Financial Group (talk) 11:05, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

The friend not walk place friend yazini love

Sorry friend not friend yazini and love thank ..... 41.114.209.104 (talk) 11:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello, did you have a question about Wikipedia? qcne (talk) 12:05, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Policy on shifting IPs?

I have reason to believe that an editor is regularly shifting IPs to avoid accumulating a history of warnings and sanctions for their conduct in talk page discussions and edits to a cluster of articles surrounding a contentious topic. Does this violate any rules? It’s been going on for at least a few years: same positions, same tone, and same geolocation. They are extremely uncivil and disruptive in talk page discussions—but if that’s the extent of it, I’d rather just walk away.

Can you point me to any relevant policies or other useful resources?

Posting as an IP myself just to avoid unnecessary escalation from my edit history.

Thanks in advance, 75.73.117.213 (talk) 18:12, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi IP editor, that would come under Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry. qcne (talk) 18:21, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

IPs are often dynamic, especially under IPv6 (your post is signed under an IPv4 address). Regardless, if they appear to be from the same geolocation, you can check the first digits of the IP and, assuming some of them are the same, a rangeblock can be employed if disruption seems to continue. However, if they're coming from clearly different IP addresses (typically as a proxy) and you're certain they're the same person, you can issue a level four immediate vandalism warning ({{subst:uwv4im}}) and if disruption continues from obviously the same person you can open an SPI to get an administrator's eye on this case. Departure– (talk) 18:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

How to add a company logo?

I am writing an article about a business. I own the copyright of all logos. I'd love to feature the logo on the page but Wikipedia is not letting me load it. Could anyone advise on how to do that? I see many pages that have logos. Thank you! ClientCircle (talk) 18:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

First, please be sure to comply with conflict of interest procedures before creating an article about anything you may want an article on. Most companies are not notable enough to have a Wikipedia article, and writing one about a company you're involved with can be considered promotional and thus should be avoided. To upload a file, you should avoid going to Commons; as you own the copyright, your logo will be released into a free Creative Commons license - you should almost always avoid that if you have any stake in the company's success. Instead, it should be uploaded as a non-free file on the page. See WP:NFC for more information about doing so. Really, it shouldn't be uploaded at all - if your company is notable enough for Wikipedia, it will be created by another volunteer editor. Otherwise, it doesn't need one, just like the 95% of other companies worldwide with no article. Departure– (talk) 18:51, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello, @ClientCircle, and welcome to Wikipedia.

I will echo what Departure says, but give some more detail.

First, I'm guessing that the business is ClientCircle? If so, please note that:

• User names must not give the impression that they belong to an organisation, as opposed to an individual, and nor may they give the impression that they are editing on behalf of an organisation. You need to change your username (or, more simply, abandon that one and create a new one). "John at ClientCircle" would be acceptable, or your real name, or any pseudonym that is not the name of the business. See WP:Username policy.
• If you own the copyright on the logo, you almost certainly count as a paid editor, and you must make a formal declaration of this status, usually on your user page. (See the link for details)
• Creating a new article is probably the hardest task there is for an inexperienced editor. My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft.
• Creating a new article when you have a conflict of interest is even harder, because it is difficult to keep hold of the fact that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. Once you have found suitable independent, reliable sources, you will need to forget everything you know about the business, and write a summary of only what those sources say.
• An inexperienced editor is strongly advised, and an editor with a COI is required, to use the articles for creation process, to create a draft, and then submit it for review. The presence or absence of a logo will not affect this process.
• If you are the copyright holder of the logo, then you have the power to license it in a way that Wikimedia Commons will accept: but you should think hard about whether you want to do so. What you will be doing is irrevocably giving anybody in the world the legal right to use or alter your logo in any way they choose, as long as they attribute its source. Is that what you want to do?
• Logos are usually added to Wikipedia articles using the much more restrictive non-free content criteria: this is a variation of "fair use", so it does not require you to give up any rights to the image. The criteria include one that the image may only be used in a published article, not in a draft; so if you are using the draft mechanism, you shouldn't attempt to upload the image until the draft has been accepted as an article.

I echo @Departure–'s advice that most companies in the world do not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability: unless you are confident that yours does, all time and effort you put into trying to create a Wikipedia article about it will be time and effort wasted.

Finally: the fact that you have posted this here will likely make you a target for scammers, who will contact you, falsely claiming that they can create an article for you. Please see WP:SCAM, and don't pay anybody any money for creating Wikipedia content. ColinFine (talk) 21:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

ClientCircle You personally own the copyright to the logo, not the company? 331dot (talk) 22:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

I would like to donate by cheque from Canada ?

How do I do this. 2607:FEA8:A501:1A00:5110:620C:BF96:4605 (talk) 19:49, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

If you're looking to donate to the Wikimedia Foundation (which run Wikipedia) then information on how to donate via cheque can be found here CoconutOctopus talk 19:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Delete Wikipedia Page

Hi! I have been trying to help John Mark McWatters delete his Wikipedia page that was created about him. I've proposed deletion a number of times, but it did not work. He is no longer in the same field, and wants this information about him taken down. Would love some help with this. Thanks so much! Xoxotennisgirl (talk) 20:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Courtesy link J. Mark McWatters Knitsey (talk) 20:13, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

There are four chief processes under which articles in the mainspace are deleted:

• 1. Speedy deletion
• 2. Proposed deletion (prod)
• 3. Proposed deletion of articles on living persons (sticky prod); and
• 4. Articles for deletion (AfD).

To learn about typical reasons articles are deleted, see Wikipedia:Why was the page I created deleted? To find out why the particular article you posted was deleted, go to the deletion log and type into the search field marked "Title" the exact name of the article, mindful of the original capitalization, spelling and spacing. The deletion log entry will show when the article was deleted, by which administrator, and typically contain a deletion summary listing the reason for deletion. If you wish to contest this deletion, please contact the administrator first on their talk page and, depending on the circumstances, politely explain why you think the article should be restored, or why a copy should be provided to you so you can address the reason for deletion before reposting the article. If after that the article remains deleted and you still wish to contest it, you have the option of listing the article at Wikipedia:Deletion review, but articles are normally only restored if the deletion was clearly improper.

2601AC47 (talk|contribs) Isn't a IP anon 20:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

@2601AC47:, they want the article deleted, they're not contesting deletion. Knitsey (talk) 20:17, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

I might add that McWatters is notable as a public official IMO. 2601AC47 (talk|contribs) Isn't a IP anon 20:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

@Xoxotennisgirl: The subject's wishes are of little relevance, when the subject is clearly a public figure. Are you asking The Washington Post, for example, to remove what they have written about McWatters? What response do you think you would get of you did so? You may find our FAQ for article subjects useful. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:32, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello! As suggested above, I'm afraid you will not be able to delete the article. The main determiner for if a subject should have an article is the notability policy (in this case, the one for politicians and judges). If it is met, it is very unlikely that the article will be deleted. Most deletion discussions revolve around if the notability policy is being met, and your deletion proposals were declined for this reason here.

I understand that he wants it deleted because it's not relevant to what he does today, but that alone is not a deletion reason. Wikipedia articles aim to cover as much verifiable information about the subject as reasonable, and this includes past work.

If there are reliable sources on what he currently does, it could be added to the article. But again, that is not a reason to remove the current content. Nyakase (talk 🐈‍⬛‍ she/her) 20:37, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Makes sense! Thank you everyone!! Xoxotennisgirl (talk) 20:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

November 20

Why is a particular article protected?

My question refers to the article entitled “Doner kebab.”

I went to read it after ordering Middle Eastern takeout food today and finding  doner on the menu but little explanation of what it was. As I read the article, I noticed a minor grammatical error and so I decided to correct it because I was already signed in to Wikipedia.

To my surprise, I was notified that I wasn’t allowed to make edits in the article because it was protected. A food article? Even if of Turkish derivation?

I’d really appreciate understanding this.

Augnablik (talk) 09:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello. Looking at the article's protection log, that article has an extensive history of disruptive editing, necessitating it be protected to prevent that disruption. From what I can tell most of that disruption is related to how to identify the nation the dish is associated with, there was much edit warring over it. It may sound silly, but such disputes happen. There was even a dispute about whether a single letter should be capitalized- which was so significant it merits an article- Wikipedia Star Trek Into Darkness debate. 331dot (talk) 09:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Template for a pile of references

While editing, I came across the episode section of Karen_(1964_TV_series)#Episodes. It has a pile of references dumped at the top of the section, I'm guessing they're there because they relate to the episodes and need moving to specific episodes. I've tried looking for a maintenance template that does the job of "This pile of references need moving to the appropriate piece of text" but can't find anything suitable. What would be the appropriate template for this occurrence? - X201 (talk) 09:23, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Restore or Draftify a deleted page

I am seeking assistance to restore a page that was deleted via AfD back in 2016 per the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kingsley's Chicken. I have attempted to contact the admin who closed the AfD (MBisanz) directly but received no response. I note the AfD occurred after a WP:REFUND which I understand to be a once only option.

A concern raised in the AfD was that it did not meet WP:CORPDEPTH and at the time, it was hard to locate published versions of existing RS. Since 2016, there has been renewed interest in this chain, including a YouTube documentary highlighting its links to a number of Australian Hip Hop artists as well as featuring in a movie. Additionally, news archives like Trove now make it easier to locate historical media coverage and I believe the article now meet notability criteria and I would like to access the previous version and work on it as a draft to update it. Who do I talk to to have it restored to the draft space please? Dfadden (talk) 09:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)